ShiVa Flash 11 engine preview

[dpharaoh]

Really great work NiCox, I've been waiting to choose tech for my next game project for just this reason.. wanting to know how the flash will work.

[peteshand]

The Pictures on flashdaily.net look cool, but I've getting the following error.

Error: Error #1000: The system is out of memory.
at flash.utils::ByteArray/set length()
at com.indigen.llvm2as.runtime::RT$/initMemory()
at MethodInfo-48()
at Function/http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::apply()
at SetIntervalTimer/onTimer()
at flash.utils::Timer/_timerDispatch()
at flash.utils::Timer/tick()

[theMightyAtom]

I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

Last night I tried to fire it up on my laptop (winXP, chrome/firefox, 256Mb Nvidea), but no joy. OK, didn't want to rain on your parade, so I though I'd wait and try it on my works machine, Win7, 8Gb RadeOn, but still no joy.
I see the loading, initialising, but then an error on all 3 demos.

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ReferenceError: Error #1069: Property setProgramConstantsFromByteArray not found on flash.display3D.Context3D and there is no default value.
   at com.stonetrip.shiva.engine::GraphicDeviceBridge$/Context3D_setProgramConstants()
   at MethodInfo-58()
   at com.indigen.llvm2as.runtime::RT$/call()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore16GFXDeviceContext18SetupShaders_FLASHEv()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore16GFXDeviceContext32DrawIndexedPrimitiveBuffer_FLASHEjjjjjjj()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore16GFXDeviceContext26DrawIndexedPrimitiveBufferEjjjjjjj()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore9GFXDevice20DrawPrimitives_FLASHEv()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore9GFXDevice14DrawPrimitivesEv()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore9GFXDevice4DrawEbbNS1_8DrawPassEfff()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore8Renderer22DrawOpaqueShapeObjectsEPNS0_6ObjectEb()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore8Renderer4DrawEPNS0_6ObjectEPKNS0_5PlaneES6_()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore8Renderer4DrawEPNS0_5SceneEb()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore6Kernel6RenderEb()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10EngineCore6Kernel11RunOneFrameEv()
   at GeneratedProgram$/__ZN7Pandora10ClientCore12ClientEngine11RunOneFrameEv()
   at GeneratedProgram$/_S3DClient_RunOneFrame()
   at GeneratedProgram$/_S3DEngine_AS3_RunOneFrame()
   at Fire/onEnterFrame()


ShiVa looks really interesting, I hope I'll get to try it in Flash soon.

Cheers!

[Yopia]

Hi,

You have to install the latest flash player ( http://get.adobe.com/fr/flashplayer/ )

[dreamora]

As for mobile: Stage 3D is not supported on mobile at all and as mobile flash will not get developed further it won't be.

The only way to go with it to mobile is take the stuff and fire it through the AIR compiler which is a total overkill as flash will always perform significantly worse than the output of shiva and even marmelade

[shivachristy]

very nice,
coming to every web page soon!

How can anyone earn money from flash apps though?

[kalango]

You cam make it a web monetized app with flash or make contract with flash game portals out there.

Facebook, google plus, etc are also a nice idea.
You can get a good amount of money, the same goes to the web plugin solution.

You can also distribute it as a standalone application with the AIR platform, tho its not any better than the standart standalone stuff.

Contract and licensing site:
http://www.flashgamelicense.com/

Tips:
http://www.photonstorm.com/archives/2510/edge-magazine-on-the-world-of-flash-gaming

[dpharaoh]

Nicox, the Unity implementation is unable to provide networking (http, etc) support in the Flash export. I know it's early in the process, but do you think Shiva's implementation will be able to support the Shiva Networking API?

As to making money with Flash games.. yes, yes, and more yes!

[peter]

Great Job!
I'm waiting for next demos

[vklymenko]

great stuff,
60-64 fps, win xp (a lot of programs running, including shiva editor and a lot of web pages opened), Acer aspire 4540G (2gb ram, ati radeon 4570 512mb), google chrome 17.0.963.56.

[FF.Fan]

Awesome, keep up the good work ^^
Wants to see more ...
and +1 for dpharaoh question

[dreamora]

Nicox, the Unity implementation is unable to provide networking (http, etc) support in the Flash export. I know it's early in the process, but do you think Shiva's implementation will be able to support the Shiva Networking API?

Pretty granted no, Shiva uses UDP too (like Raknet on which Unity Network bases) and UDP is not existing in Flash at all.

Realtime low latency / action networking automatically means 'you won't go to flash or silverlight'

[dpharaoh]

Yes, that is the immediately available external prognosis, but you never know what tricks someone has up their sleeves. There is also a solution or 2 that forwards UDP to TCP (for things like Kinect). I think it was called TUIO. Anyway, you never know!

[NiCoX]

do you think Shiva's implementation will be able to support the Shiva Networking API?

As Flash has a socket API, we should be able to provide networking support. What is sure is that we'll give it a serious try.

[juaxix]

Cool, this stuff make a big step ahead on unity